42-44 Flint Green Road: News!!

The E. H. Smith plan for 42-44 Flint Green Road has been withdrawnSee below.  This may be connected with the unpopularity of the plan which was quickly condemned by Acocks Green organisations and by the Council’s own Conservation Department. We know that developers sometimes chose to withdraw an application which looks likely to be rejected at Planning Committee stage.  They then go back to the drawing board …

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Application Number is 2009/04327/PA
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Application Number Site Address Development Description Status
2009/04327/PA 42 and 44 Flint Green Road Acocks Green Birmingham B27 6QA Erection of 11, 4 bedroom dwellings Withdrawn

Save 42-44 Flint Green Road, Acocks Green!

Representatives of Concerned Acocks Green Groups Stand outside 44 Flint Green Road

Representatives of Concerned Acocks Green Groups Stand outside 44 Flint Green Road

A joint local groups meeting of key representatives from concerned Acocks Green groups met on Wednesday 7 October to work out the details of their combined campaign to save these two fine Victorian houses in the heart of Acocks Green.  A local developer has put in a proposal to demolish the houses.  (See previous Flint Green Road posting for more details.)  The campaign has already been active in Arden Road, but has now been more formally launched with six local groups agreeing to support.  They are Arden Road Residents Association, Flint Green Road Residents Association, Acocks Green Focus Group, Acocks Green Neighbourhood Forum, Flint Green House and Birmingham City Mission.   There is a proposal to demolish these two well built and charming Victorian properties in the middle of an area currently proposed as a Conservation Area and to  replace by 11 modern 4  bedroomed houses.  The meeting agreed unanimously that this would be bad for the area on two main counts: it would damage the appearance and character of the area.  It would more dangerous traffic on the road, at a busy junction.    Councillor Roger Harmer, from Acocks Green Ward, also attended the meeting and has agreed to be actively involved.

The meeting was heartened by recent comments on the properties from  Birmingham City Council Conservation Department.  They note that

‘This  scheme is undoubtedly a retrograde step both in terms of the loss of these buildings and the design of the proposed [replacement] dwellings [...

[...] With regard to the design of the new dwellings [...] there is a distinct character (with very few exceptions to the existing properties in Flint Green Road and Arden Road.  The proposed scheme would be extremely incongrous in terms of scale, massing, form and detailed design and would not contribute positively to the street scene. ‘

BCC Conservation are recommending that the application be refused.  However, this is not the end of the story.  The application still has to be formally considered by planning officers and, almost certainly (because it is controversial) by the Planning Committee.  The planning process takes comments from members of the public into consideration.  If you wish to support local residents and the Conservation Department, you may send your own comments to the planning officer concerned, justin.howell@birmingham.gov.uk (Remember Mr Howell is a council officer, he processes the proposals.  He does not make them!)  Alternatively you can write to Planning Managment, 11th Floor, Alpha Tower, Suffolk Street Queensway, Birmingham, B1 1TU. Don’t forget to quote the Planning Application Number, which is 2009/0432/PA

For more details, and our Flikr file of photos, scroll down to see our previous posting on 42-44.

Comments from nearby residents,  would be particularly welcome.

However, Conservation do not make the decisions.  They can (and are) recommending refusal, but the application still has to go through the formal processes of consideration by planning officers, and the Planning Committee.  You can, however, support Acocks Green residents, and BCC Conservation, by writing to justin.howell@birmingham.gov.uk (The planning officer handling the application) or to Planning Management, 11th Floor, Alpha Tower, Suffolk Street, Queensway, Birmingham, B1 1TU.  If you decide to write, don’t forget to quote the Planning Application Number which is 2009/04327/PA.  We will continue to post on this story.

More on the Swan Song: What’s Happening/Not Happening at The Swan, Yardley

We are aware that a lot of people have been anxiously logging onto our site to see what is happening to the  old Swan centre at Yardley – nothing is the answer it seems, lately.  It’s been knocked down, and … ?  We are not really the experts on Yardley matters.  Being an Acocks Green orientated website our angle on things has, in the main, to be a bit selfish: ‘How does this affect Acocks Green’?  (A big nearby shopping centre could damage our local centre.)  However, we have been puzzled too – and of course we do realise that things have looked worrying for Yardley lately as well.  Some of the answers about what is happening seem to be in this helpful report by Birmingham Friends of the Earth: Birmingham FOE report on the Swan Site, Yardley. This also leads to a recent Birmingham Mail update.

St Mary’s, Acocks Green – Now Stat Listed Grade II

Just picked up a bit of news yesterday.  There is nothing about this on the Birmingham statutorily listed buildings list yet, but we have it on good authority, from Birmingham Victorian Society, and the Vicar of St Mary the Virgin, Acocks Green,  Andrew Bullock, that St Mary’s is now Statutorily Listed – Grade II.   If both the VicSoc and the Vic say that we are inclined to think it must be true!  Previously St Mary’s had no listing at all.  It seems the listing was applied for because St Mary’s needs rennovation funds, and a listing helps with grants.  St Mary’s is a fine Victorian Church, by a Birmingham architect, J. G.  Bland, 1867.  It was sadly damaged by fire during World War II, loosing it’s roof.  It retains however, a reredos (alter piece and support by a Bridgeman’s of Lichfield, a well known  church stone masons of the time.  Most important, though is the Burne Jones window, added in 1895, by local subscription.  Acocks Green is the ONLY Birmingham suburb to have uch a window, designed by this world famous  painter and stained glass designer, for the Wiliam Morris Company.  Burne Jones was born in Birmingham.  (The only other example of Burne-Jones stained glass work in Birmingham is in St Philip’s Cathedral in the city centre.)  Apparently the Burne Jones window was quite a deciding factor in the listing.  Here is is.

Burne-Jones Window (William Morris & Co), 1895 St Mary the Virgin, Acocks Green.  Image by Mike Byrne, reproduced from the Acocks Green History Society Website.

Burne-Jones Window (William Morris & Co), 1895 St Mary the Virgin, Acocks Green. Image by Mike Byrne, reproduced from the Acocks Green History Society Website.

You can read more about St Mary the Virgin at the Acocks Green History Society web pages here.

We now have the listing details for St Mary’s which you can read, or download if you wish,  here

Warwick Road Route Enhancement Leaflet

Warwick Road Route Enhancements Leaflet

Warwick Road Route Enhancements Leaflet

Do you live in Acocks Green, Tyseley,  Olton or Solihull Warwick Road area?  Was this leaflet dropped through your door in the last few weeks?  The project team promised that 50,000 leaflets would be delivered to households around the Warwick Road/A41 area between Stratford Road, Sparkhill and Solihull town centre.  The leaflets mentioned exhibitions taking place in local libraries on 12 and 19 September 09, where residents of Birmingham and Solihull living around the Warwick Road could study the ideas and give their point of view.

We would very much like to know whether you got a leaflet or NOT?  So far we have heard that Douglas Road, Alexander Road, Oxford Road and Francis Road Acocks  Green did not NOT receive leaflets.

If you received a leaflet could you say which road you live in, in any of the areas mentioned.  Likewise, if you did NOT receive a leaflet, could you indicate which road you live in? For more details on this story scroll down to see more postings.

42-44 Flint Green Road

Front 44 Flint Green Road

Front 44 Flint Green Road

With thanks to Helen Roberts for raising this, and to David Treadwell Chair of Acocks Green Neighbourhood Forum  for locating the pdf of the plans, we are publishing this new plan for 42-44 Flint Green Road, Acocks Green.   I already know that David and I and the Chair of Arden Road residents are in full agreement that this is everything Acocks Green does NOT want.  More details later.  Please look at the pdf of the plan statement at:  documentstream.aspx

The other plan documents can be accessed from this link to Birmingham City Council website: Link to view 42-44 Flint Green Road Plan Application docs

Let the council know what you think.  Let us know what you think.

There is now a batch of pictures of these two fine Victorian houses on Flikr here .   Incidentally, an international Flickr based group collecting examples of attractive and unusual doorways has requested that the photograph of the door way of 44 Flint green Road also be added to their collection.  Request granted.

The application number is: 2009/04327/PA.  This  post will be added to further.

Warwick Road/A41 Plans – ‘Smart Route’

There is another version of the Warwick Road/A41 plans, here called a ‘Smart Route’ from Network West Midlands (‘A partnership between Centro and bus and rail and tram operating companies’) here.  See postings below for more detailed info.  The main posting on this is the report on the meeting on August 6 in Acocks Green.

First Press Report since 6 August Here

The Solihull Observer has already picked this story up.  Solihull Observer on Warwick Road thanks to a Focus Group briefing.  We will add any further press reports (We have been told to expect some.)  As/when they appear.

Report on Meeting re Acocks Green Plans 6 August 09

Those who watch Acocks Green on the net have probably been aware for some time that there was something going on, on  6 August 09.  Indeed, a lot of Acocks Green’s activists, together with delegates from Solihull and others who are concerned with street layout in Birmingham spent most of the afternoon of the 6th August holed up in the Westley Hotel, in Acocks Green.

The event was centred not just on Acocks Green itself, but on the whole of the Warwick Road from Stratford Road to Solihull town centre.

Birmingham City Council, Solihull Metropolitan Borough Council, Centro and W.S. Atkins are jointly involved in a plan which aims to improve  the Warwick Road.  According to a report in The Birmingham Post there is there is currently 4 million on the table and another 19.7 million Red Route, Government funding, being bid for.  The project leaders wish to stress that ‘The possible funding sources for works along the route will be identified as Stage One of the project progresses and the issuses that need to be addressed are identified.’

Various posters were displayed showing main issues.  We reproduce the two which are centred on Acocks Green, here.

Poster 6 Aug 09 Exhibition on Acocks Green Plans - Warwick Road

Poster 6 Aug 09 Exhibition on Acocks Green Plans - Issues - Warwick Road

Note: to view poster most effectively, left click on poster until poster fills screen.  Use arrows at bottom of screen to navigate around poster.  Use  green back arrow, top left of screen, to return to this website post, NOT red x button.

Poster 6 Aug 09 Exhibition on Warwick Road issues Acocks Green  Warwick Road, Olton side of Acocks Green

Poster 6 Aug 09 Exhibition on Acocks Green plans Issues - Warwick Road, Olton side of Acocks Green

Note: to view poster most effectively, left click on poster until poster fills screen.  Use arrows at bottom of screen to navigate around poster.  Use  green back arrow, top left of screen, to return to this website post, NOT red x button.

(It was also emphasised to us that there are so many issues involving Acocks Green that not all of them could appear on the posters.)

The brief presentation outlined that there would be three stages in the (hoped for) implementation of this plan.   The first stage is to find out what measures are needed to improve the Warwick Road.  We were told that a ‘link and place’ approach would be used for this study.   In our case the ‘link’ is the road – the Warwick Road.   The ‘place’ is the place along the road – Acocks Green as far as we, who live here,  are concerned.    ‘Place’, we were told, was to be given a lot of consideration, as well as ‘link’.   In the upshot Acocks Green delegates were allocated extra time to make their points about place and what is needed for our ‘place’ along the Warwick Road.   This helped to emphasise that we are the most important whole ‘place’ along this route, and the place with the most ‘issues’ and concerns.

Topics  listed to consider for the whole route,  and to collect data and views on, included buses, rail, cycling, pedestrians, cars, urban environment, sound, noise, personal security, road safety, parking and loading.

Stage 2 will consider ‘development of measures including cost estimates and assessing the feasibility’

Stage 3  will involve the ‘implementation of mesarues developed as part of Stage 2 and monitoring them subsequently.’

Before the whole process of the stages has been fully completed there may be some small projects carried out quickly: ‘quick wins’ as and when money becomes available.  There were questions about whether such ‘quick win’ work could remain coherent within the overall plan, if done in isolation.  The presenters were keen to emphasise that anything they did would be planned to work with the ‘over-arching’ strategies, as these were developed.

After the presentation those attending were invited to comment on issues along the route – each section being looked at in turn.    Participants generally stressed the need for more facilities and ease of movement for pedestrians and cyclists, whilst also taking into account issues like the needs of motorists to park, and the need for loading and unloading time and space for delivery vehicles.

In the extra time allowed for Acocks Green we emphasised that we were, generally, very pleased with the existing, Landscape Practice,  plans already drawn for Acocks Green (See link on right.)    It has now emerged that these draft plans were drawn up with a preliminary ‘Smart Route’ in mind.   Features which we are particularly keen to keep from these plans, or to develop now, include:

- Single carriageway along the Warwick Road. Definitely no bus lanes to be added in Acocks Green!

- More trees

- More parking

- More planters

- Remove the ugly ‘go-faster’ effect danger railings

- Consider 20 m.p.h. speed limit.

The overall feeling was that, at present, things sound hopeful.  However,  we remain vigilant.   Will we get all (or any)  of this?  Have our views really been taken seriously?   Can the money be found?   Watch this space.

There were public, ‘drop in’ events at Acocks Green, Sparkhill and Olton Libraries 12th and 19th September were these posters, and the others dealing with the other sections of the Warwick Road/A41 between Stratford Road and Solihull, were shown again.

You can let us know what you think in the usual way, by responding to this posting, using the box below.

You can also visit the Warwick Road website, set up by the project team at http://www.warwickroad.org.uk/ or click through here Note there is now a questionnaire on their site  which invites you to give your views on the Warwick Road.

Bus Showcase/Bus Lanes in Acocks Green … A Trip down Memory (Bus) Lane?

We have just trawled our archives.   It looks as though the  A41/Warwick Road plan – see detailed discussion in the next posting below this one – to be discussed on 6 August 09 will not be like this one which was resoundingly thrown out of Acocks Green in 2004, with a big meeting at St Mary’s Church and a 1,000 signature petition.  (After that the successful ‘Save the Green Campaign’ morphed into ‘Acocks Green Focus Group).   This 2004 plan has, note, a bus lane each side of The Warwick Road in Acocks Green and would have involved road widening.   Hopefully,  lessons have been learned and the new, 2009, plan will be a far more sensitive plan, which will respect the needs of Acocks Green.  We will, however, remain vigilant until Thursday 6 July.

Acocks Green Route 11 Bus Showcase Scheme, 2004, Phase 2 'Improvements' - resoundlingly rejected by Acocks Green in 2004

Acocks Green Route 11 Bus Showcase Scheme, 2004, Phase 2 'Improvements'

The  ‘improvements on this part of the plan, though,  were more to do with the 37 bus route on The Warwick Road.  This whole scheme was  resoundlingly rejected by Acocks Green in 2004.

NOTE:  TO READ THIS PLAN COHERENTLY:   left click on the plan itself  until you have it full screen size and then use the on-screen arrows to move plan around for viewing.  (At this size  it is very clear.)  Use top left green, on- screen, back arrow, not red ‘x’ buttons,  to return to website.